Gov. Greg Abbott is calling on the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) to enforce the removal of “any and all political ideologies” from Texas streets, warning that cities who do not comply will “face consequences.” Non-standard surface markings, signage and signals that “do not directly support traffic control or safety” are prohibited, according to a Wednesday news release from Abbott’s office.

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  • Baron Von J@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    Find me someone who legitimately belives that differently multi-colored stripes aligned with the edges of an intersection on walkable roads (with a sidewalk) are not a crosswalk marker for pedestrian traffic and that they can just ignore pedestrians walking on those stripes.

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      You’re right. Why have a crosswalk at all? Consistency in traffic markings isn’t important.

        • FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works
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          There are codes and standards for traffic signs and markings. You are implying that he made something up to fit his narrative, which he did not.

          Side note, this is really starting to wean me off of Lemmy, and was the reason I left reddit. People need to stop and think for a minute before just blindly arguing. Go outside, get some sunlight, watch some clouds move across the sky, touch some grass, and calm the fuck down everyone.

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            Cool, no one’s suggesting we get rid of codes and standards for traffic signs and markers. I guess that’s why I said it was a straw man. If you’re not too busy touching grass, you can respond to Baron Von J’s actual argument which is that nobody is mistaking a rainbow colored crosswalk for anything other than a crosswalk.

            If you don’t like arguing online maybe try not jumping into the middle of one throwing expletives around?

            • artyom@piefed.social
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              no one’s suggesting we get rid of codes and standards for traffic signs and markers

              That’s literally what’s being argued. There are standards for traffic signs and markers, and the gov is just demanding to actually adhere to them. Though his motivation is nefarious, the logic is still sound.

              If you want to argue against that, you are arguing for the dissolution of said standards because “they’ll figure it out”.

              This is not complicated.

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                If anything, the argument is that we’d like to add to traffic signs and markers by making them more visible.

                Non-standard surface markings, signage and signals that “do not directly support traffic control or safety” are prohibited, according to a Wednesday news release from Abbott’s office.

                Hmmm that’s really weird because according to this study,

                As indicated in the results of both the historical crash analysis and observational behavior assessment, asphalt art had a strong positive correlation with improved safety benefits across aggregated and most individual study sites. Road user behavior clearly improved across the observed study sites in the after analysis periods.

                So let’s see some data from you on how removing the rainbows from crosswalks will “support traffic control or safety”.

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          4 months ago

          Do you have any arguments, or just personal insults? In what way is that a strawman?

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            the way you mischaracterized their statement makes it a strawman. the fact you’re sucking fascist dick to do it makes it stupid.

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              You should take a long look at yourself if you’re going to go around mischaracterizing everyone you come across as “fascist” for absolutely no fucking reason at all

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            Did Baron Von J suggest we get rid of crosswalks? No, you made up a stupid argument to knock down and pretend you’re right. Hmm wonder if there’s a name for that? Guess we’ll never know.

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              I didn’t make up anything. They suggested painted crosswalks are completely pointless, because everyone knows where the crosswalk is. Then you made up a stupid strawman argument about my argument being a strawman instead of actually addressing the subject at hand.

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                I didn’t make up anything. They suggested painted crosswalks are completely pointless, because everyone knows where the crosswalk is.

                Non I did not suggest that. That’s your strawman. I suggested that the color of the paint doesn’t matter. Every knows that the stripes painted at the intersection are a crosswalk regardless of what color they are.

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                  “The color of the paint does not matter” = “the regulations do not matter”. The color of the paint (and the pattern) is the regulation. The regulations either matter or they don’t, you can’t have it both ways.

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                    It’s just black and white thinking in a department where any moderately capable human in a crosswalk context would understand that it’s still a crosswalk regardless of if it’s plain white paint or if it’s a rainbow. It’s not difficult to understand or know which is the point of signage like this, to convey that is a place to walk.

                    Going from “it’s okay to paint a crosswalk a rainbow, it still makes sense to people” to “all regulation doesn’t matter and it’s pointless” for their argument IS a strawman, that is not what they’re arguing.

                  • Baron Von J@lemmy.worldOP
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                    I didn’t say regulations don’t matter, I said the colors don’t matter to convey the meaning. And in this case we all know it’s not that Abbott gives a shit about the regulations he’s just being a snowflake about people not hating gays. So I really don’t give a shit.