• Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    4 days ago

    I would hope so given how much pollution they’re responsible for. They should have already been there or at least been close. Europe’s at 50% now and China is still on par with the US who’ve been run by a child rapist for the better part of a decade.

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      3 days ago

      Worth noting the US is still ahead on total cumulative emissions, and if you adjust per capita (which is only fair), it doesn’t even hit the top 20.

      Meanwhile, they installed more solar than the rest of the world combined last year.

      Like, I’m not absolving them, they could be doing more, but right now they’re embarrassing us on how fast they’re pivoting.

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      4 days ago

      I mean China is still in the tail end of industrialisation, the fact they’ve come this far in such a short amount of time is astonishing.

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        3 days ago

        By that logic why would any country have to reduce emissions. Reduce emissions nah im on the tail end of industrialisation so im not gonna do that. Im sure global warming will be happy to wait because we all know once you finish industrialisation emissions hit 0.

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          3 days ago

          Reading comprehension on this website.

          They still have to reduce emissions and in the last few years they’ve built tons of renewables.

          My point was that their progress so far is actually very impressive considering they are still in the process of industrialisation. It was bit me saying they don’t need to do anything else.

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            22 hours ago

            The time to begin reducing emissions was 20 years ago. They’ve almost caught up to the US’s 170 years of damage dealt in 40 years. Are we just suppose to allow every country to do this? Can india do the same for the next 20 years with no complaints from you? My country isnt industralized should we get rid of our emission targets. After the first climate conferences countries may not have been all hitting their targets but they werent blatantly disregarding them and doing the complete opposite except china of course because even though they’re one of the highest GDP in the world and already industrialized they get the pollution pass because they’re a dictatorship.

            The only impressive thing is how much damage they’ve done in such a short time.

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              17 hours ago

              Again. You don’t seem to understand the comment I’m making.

              Are we just suppose to allow every country to do this?

              I am not arguing this.

              Can india do the same for the next 20 years with no complaints from you?

              Nor this.

              My country isnt industralized should we get rid of our emission targets.

              Nor this.

              I’m not saying China isnt polluting or should be allowed to continue polluting or anything of the sort. You’ve literally just made that up out of think air in order to have an argument.

              Please learn to read.

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                3 hours ago

                Your original reply is dumb though. There is nothing to suggest they’re in the tail end of industrialisation and thats not even and excuse or anything to be impressed by. Like wow look how fast they were about to become the biggest polluter in the world its crazy what you can do with zero environment regulations. But dont worry they will stop now that theyre 40% of global emissions and have raised global temps by 2c.

                Good job china I clap. Can’t wait for India to do the same and put the final nail in our coffin.

        • But China is reducing emissions, what are you on about? China has a disproportionate amount of the world’s production capacity, if it reduced that it’d have massive worldwide economic ramifications (meaning other countries wouldn’t have the money to reduce emissions either).

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            3 days ago

            They have never reduced emissions only reduced emission growth and only by single digit % only to increase it the next year. I dont care about how much they’re producing they choose to produce that and therefore they are responsible for those emissions same as everyone else.