Just need to sign a few more multi-billion contracts of massive data centers that will totally get built out.
Does anyone here know how to get the DDR5 Chinese RAM?
Ali express but the prices end up being the same because the demand is still to high for China to match the supply.
I think they’re a bit cheaper if you buy within China, but globally it ends up being better to pick a good OEM with proper warranty.
I’m pretty sure they can only make DDR3 so far.
They’re actively producing DDR4 and 5, with Corsair notably having purchased supply from CXMT for use in their Vengance line, just not for North American distribution
Truly hate this timeline
I’ve been looking at used PCs and usually those are just missing the gpu, but now I’ve been seeing no RAM and no SSD. At least with the gpu only being missing it was semi functional if there was integrated graphics, but now you are just basically buying a brick until you can get 3 components that cost 400 or so USD
Honestly, what’s the point in selling the machine at all at that point. Clearly those components are worth more out of the machine than in.
I started building a RAID before the prices of hard drives popped off, so I got the enclosure and one drive, I was going to buy the other drives when I had some spare cash. Now a single 8tb HDD (not even solid state!) is $450 CAD and there’s no way I can spend $1350 to finish this thing so it’s just sitting there.
I had the exact same plan, luckily I had a couple of other 1TB drives lying around I’ve made a RAID from. but i took a screenshot of the drives I wanted when I bought my first 4TB drive, and then I looked at them again 11 months later…
Lower price is from 06/25 and the other is 05/26.
I guess we should dog in and wait for the AI to come crashing down and all kinds of memory stuff going way down.
My friend, I’m sorry to tell you… That’s not how this is going to go.
After the crash, no matter how you shake it, three truths will be standing between you and affordable ram at home.
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None of the backlog of product that had been fabricated will be useful and adaptable for Consumer equipment. They can’t just repackage any of the HBM products to fit in our computers.
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Every ram MA ufactufer will suddenly be facing a cash flow problem as their principal (and in some cases, ONLY) accounts receivable will be dodging them and checks won’t clear.
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All of the equipment thst MA ufacteres the memory chips will need to be retooled and all of the supply chain paths to packagers and Distributors will need to be spun up and rebuilt.
All of this hurts the memory pricing we pay at the end of the line.
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Hetzner just raised their VPS prices for the second time in two months, 300-400%. Not sure how much more of this I can bear lol
Then micron is going to lose money as they have been getting businesses to lock in for 5 years.
Yeah, I’m not sure they’re going to go up that far into the future.
That is potentially 100s of millions that Micron left on the table.
Who does that?
What price did micron lock businesses in at though?
Like one of the guys says in the comments, highly unlikely. We’re already seeing some downward pressure on prices the past couple of months. The market simply does not support another 90% of hikes (between this guy’s Q3 and Q4 predictions)
Chinese brands are still producing and still adding supply to the global supply chain. Countries that can utilize chinese ram will buy them because they are cheaper, and they will keep producing more because they still can get a price premium from all the pent up demand.
Still gonna be a few years before prices come back down, but i’ll be amazed if we see much more of an increase.
We’re probably seeing demand destruction. I’m curious if the thin-client thing that a lot of these companies seem to want will actually take off. I’ve also been noticing a lot of “cyberdeck” and retro handheld stuff lately; I wonder if that’s related.
Retro handhelds have been increasing their prices due to the shortages every month or so. Since they don’t build in massive numbers they’re some of the most affected.
Do you have a source for that downward pressure? I’d like a little good news if it’s real lol
Downward pressure? Where? Prices have continued to go up and up.
Let me check…
Yeah, Morrowind still runs fine. I’m cool.
As long as your RAM doesn’t stop working…
Right right, great timing with the class action lawsuit.
Ram demand expected to drop another 40-50% in Q3?
I still demand new RAM, but still caan’t afford it
If you’re going to measure demand in a way that makes sense for a demand vs supply formula, you must do it in a way that’s independent of the price.
Prices are increasing because demand is high, and supply is not keeping up.
I wouldn’t say demand is high I would say demand is glitched and infinite. The AI bubble has gotten to such a scale where all the existing parts are already sold but even further they have sold parts that don’t even exist yet for datacenters which haven’t even started construction yet in order to satisfy a projected demand curve the sales people dreamed up in order to somehow promise a slight profitability of this entire mess.
It sounds more and more like planned economy rather than capitalism lol
It’s all of the downsides of a planned economy without the upsides of having a fucking plan.
Planned profit
Fair enough, I meant consumer demand as in not ai and data centers
Also most consumer demand indirect. Few people buy RAM sticks but a lot of people buy laptops, tablets, smartphones, TVs, consoles, cars, fridges, toasters etc.
Thank God my toaster’s had 32GB DDR5 since 2024.
Couldn’t even buy a Raspberry Pi nowadays :(
Now it’s paying for RAM with a bonus Pi attached.
Yeah, a RPi 5 16GB is almost at laptop prices now. At least here.
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Guess I’ll keep using my DDR3 machine for a few more years.
Hell yeah, another fellow user of DDR3. It’ll live forever!
I don’t really see a reason to upgrade, my i5 from 2009 is still running fine. Damn, now that I’m writing it out, that does sound old
Legit thinking of selling RAM sticks to rich people so that I can pay rent a bit easier lol (not actually loling)
Is RAM finally worth more than a kidney? I have two of those but I have 4 32GB ram sticks, can I keep my kidneys when I need to pay my bills?
You and I, friend.
We’ll recycle A pile of scrapped computers and we’ll be in Belize by winter!
🏝️🍹
Isn’t ddr4 pretty affordable at this point?
Not really. A lot of regular consumers got priced out of DDR5 so they went back to DDR4 and now it’s insanely priced too. Like $150+ for a 2x8GB sticks
Even ddr3 has gone slightly up, which is insane
Ooooooof. Fuck everything.
No. Even DDR3 prices have skyrocketed.
I’m so glad I bought 128gb RAM in my new PC 1 year ago…
Ellipsis are wrongly used again. Why do you people keep using shit you do not understand?
Jesus christ, that’s an impressive build.
Same.
It was actually FOMO when it felt like we were in a memory IC price trough. I got a 2TB SATA drive too.
I got a 4Tb NVMe and a 10Tb SATA drive, so happy I didn’t wait.
Yeah, in hindsight I should have gotten a giant SATA.
…because you can now sell it? /s
“He’s got RAM! GET HIM!”
How is that their fault?
There are consumers, who are willing to pay more. Basic economics
They were grouping together to all raise prices at once. If everyone who sold food suddenly raised their costs together, would it be fair? There’d be consumers to buy it. Basic economics!
Just because people would pay more for something, doesn’t mean they should have to
We don’t know, but we have another explanation: consumers went to buy from all three memory manufacturers at once, offering the same, high price.
The problem lies in 3 companies owning a monopoly on dram production and all conspiring together to make things shit for everyone who isn’t them
3 companies can’t all have a monopoly on the same thing lol
If they’re running a price-fixing scheme they sure can
They very much can when they’ve been proven to collude to keep prices up.
If any one of them started making more RAM, they’d make a lot more profit than the other two. If all 3 did, they’d all still make a bunch of profit, but not as much as right now. They have an agreement that nobody ramps up RAM production so everyone gets to keep super high margins.
In the past they’ve literally agreed upon a target price to keep…
The problem is the fact demand is higher than supply, which memory manufacturers are trying to solve.
If they’re competing with each other, which they are, it’s not a monopoly.
I’m glad I saved the 120gb of old DDR3 ram, that is in a server. No way I am buying that new shit. Even used is expensive.
