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i’d rather die than read a man page
There are some useful manual pages I like to use, and there’s some that exist just so there’s a manual pages
i get that man pages can be useful sometimes but what in the world is that layout, maybe it’s just me not getting used to them but why write them in such a hard to understand way?
If you’re a ‘new linux user’ then your only usecase is opening a browser and thats pretty much it. No PR needed for that lol.
Did Mom stab herself!? She must represent Microsoft.
I have been using Linux for a very long time. My desktop, laptop, and server all have Linux installed. I haven’t even seen a Windows system. in almost 10 years. Everyone around me uses Mac. But boy I hate man pages. I hated man pages for so long. I am. sure it’s a skill issue but I don’t care :)
Great for LLM’s though. If someone invents a
tldrutility that feeds man pages into a wood chipper LLM that can spit out examples for my exact usage then I will get down on all fours and blow that LLM until it spews out hot white gasoline all down my face and throat and someone tells me to run but I just look at them steadily, holding the LLM’s shaft in one hand tightly whilst flicking open a lighter with another, and then grin
A santoku, really?
manual? website? all information is on a badly organised slightly hostile discord server
Not even close, Linux users have been creating documentation long before Discord existed, and will continue to do so long after Discord dies. In my experience one of the most consistently great places to learn how to perform various tasks is the Arch Linux Wiki. It’s extremely helpful and relevant even if you’re not using Arch.
If I were trying to get info about Linux on Discord, I’d probably find myself getting upset too. It’s almost like Discord just sucks or something.
my personal experience with trying nobara was like this. i couldnt find info when looking for something
disclaimer: i might just have been to stupid
Where’s the “guy, who can’t shut up about Neovim”?
Okay, but what the hell is the original lmao
A cover to ‘A 3 step guide to starting a new life’
No captions.
$ man kill
$ man wtf
Whatever distro you’re using is literally the worst one.
I know. I purposely chose Kinonite because once installed, I don’t do anything but install a few flatpacks, and then I never need to do anything more. I will never learn anything, nor will I ever need to look at a man page.
The bomb is atomic
Using flatpaks is using Linux wrong
Of course it is! That’s why I use them! Well, layering is using atomic distros wrong.
What a weird comment. That’s like saying using the window wipers is using the car wrong. Sure you can go without but when your shit crashes because you thought you were cool not using them you learn they serve an important purpose even though it may not be what seems to be the primary goal.
Satire in my satire thread?
It’s more likely than you think.
Not only is it the absolute worst, but you’re also using it wrong
also you shouldn’t use that desktop environment that you prefer
And actually you shouldn’t use a desktop environment in the first place as you should be editing all config files manually as well as running your own compositor
I use Arch, btw. You should have installed Arch too. It crashes sometimes and I got malware a couple of times, but most of the time, if I troubleshoot it just right, it’ll show me my desktop. But, hey at least it’s at the latest version and has the latest features so I can brag about it. But you should just use Arch, bro. It’s the best, bro.
I first installed Linux in 1995, before I had a second computer where I could look for help. Compared to that experience today’s situation is paradise. So you won’t hear me complain.
Today’s linux situation is paradise compared to gaming on windows any time before 2015. I still remember having to keep multiple different nvidia driver installers ready for launching just to match what game I wanted to play.
There was a SoundBlaster Gold card I spent a whole month reading man pages and trying to get it to compile into the kernel.
Those were the days, I tell you. Never again. I’m trying to forget as much as possible.
I’ve never had to do that and I’ve used plenty of Nvidia cards, assuming we’re talking Windows.
Same here. I don’t know wtf that dude had going on.
This man has never played crysis.
Oh, I remember that. Red hat 2.0. Where you had to download the source code for all of the floppy discs, compile them, and then write all of the floppies. I remember it was 7 or 9 floppy discs, 13 if you wanted printer drivers.
It wasn’t until Red Hat 2.5 that they had pre-compiled floppy images you could download.
I went to one of my BBS friends houses in the early 90s and he had a giant book on how to compile and install Slackware
I’ve definitely ran into the situation where I fucked something up half-way though installing a new distro, then had to wipe it to go back to an old distro so that I could access the internet and find out what I did wrong so that I could start from scratch.
I hate doing debugging on my phone, but man sometimes is it better than the alternative.
Similarly, I ordered floppies for Slackware from Walmut Creek. Spent weeks screaming at my system for not being able to get a 256k Tulip VLB ISA video card to init into X before I found my first Linux BBS on I think DalNET… times were… different.
But the sheer joy you felt when finally you got it to work made you really feel like you were a real haxzor.
I do not miss that.
PR are welcome
Frankly if more software was like that we’d have these issues so much better. So many maintainers are so protective that they won’t even read a bug fix PR and just close it.
Is there a golden retriever labelled “random person on IRC with answers to all questions, writes a driver for you so you do t have to enter that house”
Is that you TexStar?
works on <other distro>
I feel like someone tired of hearing “it works on my computer” is how NixOS came about
I tried NixOS after many years on Debian. I cannot go back, at least not on my server.
Why’s that?
Debian is great, I love it. But the ease of which I can repair my system when I break it is the main reason to stay. I made an error in my hardware config and I just had to use the previous generation to get back to a working state. After that, I could take my time to fix the issue without the server being down.
This whole everything is in config files is also very appealing, even though there is a lot to learn to get to the same level of knowledge (https://nix.dev/ helps there).
I know people hate hearing that line, but when I have done technical support it is highly useful to know if it works properly on other machines.
Preferably identical hardware is a good starting point, but if a solution is working fine on one machine but not another it can steer you toward other client issues.
Some user complaints of " it doesnt work on my machine" have been resolved to:
- user modified, or didn’t input, the correct environment variable.
- user is running a version of app not certified for that hardware config.
- user actually has no clue how computers work and didn’t realize the app looking for shared network locations only works if you are on the network. Or app needing a license server can’t work if it can’t find the server
- user isn’t understanding the requirements for the app output, so not providing the necessary input can’t achieve proper output results.
Also Docker and OVA.
Docker’s like “well why don’t we just ship the client your computer then?”
Dude, we got two machines shipped to us because the other team wasn’t able to make the installers function. It was electromagnetic microscope simulators, so the team wasn’t noobs. Got 2 fat pcs.
Worked!
What’s an electromagnetic microscope simulator? For reference, I work in electron optics.
I worked on the visualisation and processing software for the Volume Scope EM ( I could only find a link to the successor here ) and the 2 PCs had the control and acquisition software.
A quite nice SEM, multi acquisition (you could designate several regions), multi energy (so scanning several depths by focusing the electron beam per layer) and of course the diamond knife 😁 to cut each layer!
I use SEMs, BTW.
This is actually why I installed Bazzite on my desktop and suggested it to all my friends and family who were interested in Linux.
If anyone has a problem, I’m already familiar with the distro and I can be reasonably certain that the software situation is pretty close.
As a daily-driver of nixos: basically yes.
plausible
Can you explain the nixOS part?
The party trick of NixOS is declaring your whole system in a huge config file. If you want someone to get the same system, you just throw your config at them and it works*.
The ethos of NixOS is if a program runs on one computer using Nix it will run on any computer running Nix.
Okay but like that’s almost every other distro as of 2021
It’s called Atomic Updates. The idea is every installed program is complete with no missing dependencies by ensuing each package maintains its own. Additionally an image of each program is kept so if an update goes poorly and something breaks rolling back is simple
Chances are they have wildly different setup to the point that it’s useful for reference at best
“this specific issue wouldnt happen if you had just installed distro youve never heard of before”
