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Wouldn’t actual data privacy laws stop this all the same? I can’t help but feel this weird song and dance avoiding the privacy argument exists so US companies don’t get in the crossfire for doing the same shit with your data.
No way in hell they’d ever argue data privacy.
That’s only for apple to pretend to care about while selling your data to brokers.
Sorry Apple is selling user data to data brokers now?
Yeah. They do have their own data collection practices and privacy policies. IIRC, meta was crying over Apple implementing permission data for apps since it would allow people to back off from meta but Apple would be sole winner from that move.
Yeah I was curious about Apple selling data to brokers, which I think would be new news. For Meta yeah that was the ios14 update, which really messed with their bottom line apparently lol
I think I was mistaken on that point. They’re not publicly doing that - just selling ads.
Yes, but congress just authorized a bunch of new surveillance
Affective legislation rather knee jerk reactionary politics? Not in America, buddy.
Remember the golden rule of American thought:
CHINA BAD.
America already controls the TikTok servers. It all needs to be hosted on Oracle, and Oracle can see the source code.
The ban makes no sense seeing the previous requirements.
Oracle can see the source code or the binary?
Yeah I don’t think this person knows what they’re talking about, they must either think ByteDance is hosting the source code on Oracle’s servers or they somehow think that binaries are the same as source code 🤷
I think this person very well knows what they are talking about
TikTok got forced to host all on Oracle servers and store all information there. And have mandatory code inspections.
This was after Trump tried to ban it citing “security concerns”.
The funniest part is that back then Microsoft was supposedly trying to buy TikTok and Trump made sure that wouldn’t happen
Microsoft was reported to be in talks of acquiring TikTok. Later that day, President Trump announced plans to ban TikTok in the United States, and signaled opposition to any sale to a U.S.-based company. Trump’s ban threat and his indication he would oppose any sale to an American buyer was condemned by TikTok users, many of whom argued that national security concerns were being used as a cover by the administration to justify a ban as retaliation for pranks aimed at Trump by TikTok users (particularly, a ticket-purchasing effort to inflate projected and depress actual attendance of his June 20 campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma) and other content satirizing Trump or critical of him and his actions, especially in relation to his response to the George Floyd protests.
Where did you get the idea that Oracle can see their source code? That only applies if they host their source repository on Oracle, if they host the servers there chances are it’s binaries that are hosted on the server not the source code.
May 2023 - TikTok Will ‘Soon’ Grant Oracle Full Access to Code, Algorithm
(Bloomberg) – TikTok will “soon” grant Oracle Corp. full access to its source code, algorithm and content-moderation material as part of efforts to alleviate national security concerns about the app.
Oracle will also begin monitoring the controlled gateways where data comes in and out of the secure environment it set up on servers to host data from TikTok’s US users, according to a statement from the social media company Monday.
Wasn’t Facebook proven to give misleading information that led old people to vote for Trump that was ultimately from Russia propaganda sources? Where’s the Meta ban?
So… the company that was removed for spreading propaganda is suing for being removed for spreading propaganda and is using…. checks notes: propaganda as evidence.
This should be fun!
Ok then, let’s sue for the Chinese ban of literally most of the Internet. Where can I find the court that gives a shit about countries who don’t wanna participate in other countries Internet toys and what the fuck are they gonna do about it?
It’ll be interesting to see how this one plays out. In my head this argument is a little shaky, since it seems to be effectively arguing that Americans have the right to access foreign propoganda machines? There is legal precedent here, but the nature of propoganda has massively changed since the 60s.
This is going to be a very interesting court case that has broad reaching implications, but expect no Americans to give a shit because it’s not going to feature a trash fire to gawk at.
Only Zionist propaganda is allowed in the US
https://truthout.org/articles/romney-and-blinken-admit-tiktok-ban-sought-to-censor-gaza-news/
I wouldn’t trust any organization that has “truth” in its name. It’s like the car salesperson who says “Trust me” way too much.
And according to Media Bias/Fact Check, they’ve got a clear bias and are not classified as factual reporting.
Pretty sure they are referencing a publicly available interview
edit: wild to me that people are downvoting a comment providing an additional source, but whatever I guess
The tiktok hate on this platform is bizarre.
I think it just got hyper-politicized and segregated along political lines during the reddit migration.
You can pretty well predict the comment sentiment based on how the topic relates to political discourse. It’s not surprising that a liberal-dominated instance would view TikTok through a political lense, even if it’s super disappointing.
Other privacy-focused instances might see this less politically but lemmy.world has become centered around liberal politics.
It’s literally a video interview of Romney and Blinken talking about why TikTok had to be shut down.
That does seem to be how the article (and Twitter comment) framed it, yes
Yes. I’m not clear on why you went on a tangent about how untrustworthy the site linking the video is.
How the article framed it does not mean that’s what the video was about
