If the bourgeoisie turn to violence and terror during crises, how is that different from revolutionaries removing the bourgeoisie from power? I used to identify as an American Democrat but I’m super frustrated with their insistence on useless, vapid displays of “resistance”.
So I’m not in tune to the same news you are, I guess… when did the US invade North Korea?
Please don’t be snarky. I’m asking in good faith, I’m genuinely curious and trying to be open-minded.
Looks like something from Annihilation. I absolutely love that
I will, got some theory on my reading list as well :)
Listen, random people on the internet try to shame me all the time. It happens even when I don’t interact. But it’s no indication if a viewpoint is “correct” or whatever.
Also, agreeing with you about genocides or the events in certain parts of the world or anything is completely separate from supporting you. MLs seem to think that they’re one in the same, that anyone who doesn’t agree 100% with them are enemies. Even if I did agree with you, black-and-white broad-stroke insults make people not want to work with you.
Just want to say thank you for understanding :) I absolutely agree about the genocide in Gaza and any invented “white genocide.” But with something like Xinjiang, I don’t think I can make a call about it, you know? I appreciate your understanding that it’s not as clear-cut to everyone about what’s going on in the world. It doesn’t necessarily make me agree or disagree with you, but it absolutely makes want more to be an ally of yours.
I didn’t make my point clear. I don’t have any strong opinions on these matters I brought up, outside “genocide is bad” and other basic ethics. I’m admitting I don’t know much about them, not due to apathy but due to… just information fucking overload. It’s absurd to equate me with white supremacists just because I can’t keep up with everything going on in the world to exacting detail.
Are… are you trying to shame me into agreeing with you? Does the “militant” in Militant Leftist actually mean rageposting and not armed resistance?
That’s very diplomatic, and I appreciate you taking my question seriously. But Dess is a core personality of the Lemmyverse and insulting a huge swathes of people using their platform really puts a lot of distance between the ML community and people they could potentially sway.
Unless MLs aren’t interested in swaying more people to their side and just want to preach to the choir.
Wait, I’m a white supremacist because I don’t want China - or anyone else - to manipulate Tibet or persecute Uygurs? I’m a Klansman because I lean to supporting Taiwan’s independence?
Do, like, MLs just hate everyone? Honestly, why are MLs so extremely hostile to people they don’t 100% agree with?
We don’t need anti-American propaganda, we already hate America, my guy
Thanks sharkfucker420
this is certainly a post of all time
A bad workman blames their tools
FTFY
Oh ok. I understand better. Thank you for taking the time to explain it :)
I see MLs talk about “liberalism” and, correctly or not, I think of the French Revolution. It seems though that that term is instead of “neoliberalism,” I think (?). I can see the narrative that “liberalism” and “fascism” are like masks that capitalist structures wear, like modes of operation. But it’s also confusing because those two concepts don’t descend directly from fascism.
And I think I’m picking up that ML is a the revolutionary part of expanding communism, and I guess that’s why it’s not just Marxism? Because Marx foresaw the fundamental changes that needed to happen, and Lenin instantiated it? I haven’t read Marx yet, it’s on my list of shame, I suppose 😅
Since we have an open dialogue, I’m also curious of your opinion about "tankie"ism. Specifically, why not-so-pro-communist people see MLs as tankies that defend or deny authoritarian crimes against humanity.
I have to admit this may be a failing in my own political education. 😅 Why do you think liberalism and fascism are “the same ideology in different circumstances”? I think McCarthyism is a modern example of violent anti-communism, and I agree, that got really close to fascism. (Although I could argue that violent anti-anything would lead to fascism.)
I’m wondering if, like, Marxism-Leninism is something like “communism is what organized societies would naturally look like, and everything else is an authority asserting itself unfairly” sort of mindset.
So, when you say “anti-communism”, do you mean an organized front resisting and opposing communism, or just anyone who has an non-pro-communist opinion?
I imagine if I said something like “yeah capitalism has failed us, but that doesn’t mean I want a planned economy” you might respond by saying I’m a wishy-washy centrist.
Have you asked Grok about the Jewish Holocaust?
Well, as someone who hasn’t Read Theory, the last line in the meme seems to disdain use of violence in a very general way. It was just confusing, but I see now that it’s just not well worded