But that’s the point. I don’t want to have to go there to have a good experience. I want to have it here.

Maybe we should rename this place too.

This is the best of your ideas.

If we do things as you seem to want, then there’s no point even having separate communities. Let’s just have one big bin and every day we can throw 10,000 conversation into it like junk.

The rules are there for a reason.

Check the community description, it has a decent definition of “showerthought”. With examples for clarity.

Also this community is actively asking for more mods.

So that explains it.

This belongs in !casualconversation@lemmy.world or !shootingthebreeze or whatever, not here. Like 1 in 3 other posts, yes. Literally breaks rules #1 and #2.

The “mods” in this community are asleep at the wheel. Might as well not have them.

This post breaks literally rules #1, #2 and #3 of this community. Crazy.

Mods please wake up and DO YOUR JOB.

Breaks rule #2 completely. Not a showerthought.

THIS IS NOT A SHOWERTHOUGHT. This just an opinion. There already a ton of places to put your banal talking points like this. Why can’t you put them there??

For examples of what a showerthought is, look on the right. Another one was posted 2 minutes after this very post:

“With all due respect” could imply that no respect is due and therefore none is given

That is a showerthought.

PS: Want more substance? It breaks rule #4 partially and rule #3 totally.

Indeed, confusing terminology. I consider that collaborative document editing is the activity, cloud hosting vs P2P is the technical implementation.

Like it or not, nobody much is doing the latter because it’s much harder to set up and the available cloud solutions provide a much (much) better user experience. I don’t say this a better situation but it’s the way things are.

Yes, in theory, although tricky to set up. What it cannot do, at least not without fiddly modules, and even then nowhere near as well as the cloud competition, is any kind of collaborative document editing. Which is where the world is at today.

Your initial response got peoples’ backs up because of its dismissive tone and (it seemed to me, as you hadn’t provided context) apparent advocacy for web-based tools like O365 or GSheets.

The pernicious side of social media in microcosm. To say “it’s not collaborative” is somehow understood as shilling for big tech. Always the worst possible interpretation of every remark.

Agreed as to vim.

Yes yes. The issue here being that in the real world nobody much is doing the latter. But we’re getting off topic, LibreOffice is neither.

Yes, true.

My single personal spreadsheet is (uh) a CSV that I edit with vim. I don’t want to have to fire up a monstrous GUI app just to view a table. But sure, count me as eccentric in this way.

Most of the spreadsheets I deal with are for work. For what I consider obvious reasons, they’ve been cloud-hosted for literally decades now.

Honest question: who would use a non-collaborative standalone spreadsheet in 2025? I don’t get it.

Very useful concrete example of how these changes might be a problem. Thanks.

And the second is going extinct.

Mice? What is this thing you talk of?

Exactly. I do it pretty regularly and I’ve been using Linux for 20 years.

And yet people here are still saying “no biggie”. It’s pure status quo bias.

Come on, having a 3-key combo for such a common task is a PITA. There’s a reason people have been complaining about this for decades.