Yes. Voting is useful for showing solidarity with the movement and demonstrating how the current system doesn’t work. Just because it isn’t capable of causing any meaningful change doesn’t mean it’s useless.

You don’t believe there are WMD? What are you some authoritarian simping tankie?

Oh yeah that’s dumb. It should be the modern Korean war.

I feel like there needs to be a good word for someone who has the capacity to do better burlt chooses to dwell in ignorance and should be ashamed of that.

“People hated living under communism just ask them”

Actually you’ll find most people preferred living under communism

“They’re just blinded by nostalgia”

So you can’t just ask people about what it was like under communism?

“No you can, if you did you’d find they all hated it”

Monkey’s paw curls. Raw chicken is now more expensive than cooked chicken; The price of cooked chicken remains the same.

Anarchists are left. Anything to the left of capitalism is left. Anarchists want to get rid of capitalism.

Crazy how quick libs are to excuse genocide.

“Yeah my party does genocide but they’re the lesser evil”

“Yeah Taiwan is looking up to a genocidal state but that’s okay because it’s to stop China”

The genocide that happened under Biden is the same one happening under Trump. Saying “but Trump will do more genocide” makes you sound like a fucking idiot.

And saying “Not voting for someone who refuses to speak out on x is having an idealised moral high ground” when the x in question is a genocide makes you a genocide belittling prick.

Monkey together strong.

Also depending on where you are there’s likely already anti-fascist groups.

The person belittling a genocide is a genocidal prick. There is no “more genocide”. If genocide isn’t a redline for you then you’re a genocidal prick.

You have more power than just voting every 4 years lmao. Get organised and start interacting with like minded people and get other people on your side. Every 4 years there’s 1540 days where you could be fighting fascism and you’re only doing it for 1.

I’m so glad Hitler was voted into power and not Himmler that would’ve been bad.

The concentration camps are a perfect example. No one’s saying both sides are the exact same. They’re saying they both serve US imperialism. Case and point: one side wants 5 concentration camps, the other thinks that’s a little too much and we should settle for 1.

If you want to build concentration camps you’re a fascist. If you’re okay with a party wanting to build concentration camps or can look past it you’re a fascist. You wouldn’t accept someone in the 1930s saying “yeah what the nazis are doing with the Jews is bad but have you seen their treatment of animals? I’ll vote for them but I’m no Nazi.”

You cannot convince the rich and powerful that it’s politically unfavourable when it’s economically favourable to do genocide.

They don’t care about what people want. They care about what they want, and that’s US imperialism.

“I won’t vote for someone who isn’t speaking about X” is an idealized moral high ground when the alternative is not only X getting worse, but even more X happening.

Fuck you you genocidal prick. Substituting genocide for “x” is disgusting. It’s not “oh there’s just this one bad thing”. It’s genocide. It’s literally the worst possible thing you can do on this planet. And you’re saying other people have an idealised moral high ground because they think GENOCIDE is something that should never be done.

I already checked meanwhileongrad and saw someone lying about a user supporting genocide.

I checked the modlog and saw instances of things on the lines of “oh I knew you guys were just tankies”.

So let’s quit this stupid game.

You show me an example of someone actually advocating for genociding Uyghur muslims or admit you’re just making shit up to justify hating people you disagree with. There’s “entire communities” so you shouldn’t have much trouble.

Those are examples of social welfare not socialism.

Socialism is when the workers own the means of production not when the government does stuff.

Even strict dictatorships have elections to gauge how much support they have. They’re limited in how far they can go before spawning a revolution. Just because votes aren’t capable of inacting actual change against the ruling class’s interests doesn’t mean it isn’t useful. By voting for a third party you’re showing solidarity with the movement and demonstrating how the current system is a sham. By voting for the system you only legitimise it and give the rulers the excuse to say they’re acting legally and with the will of the people.