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They’re basically trying to solve a problem that gaming has had for 20 years.

Low quality clones asset flips in cash grabs have always been a problem. It’s always been a problem on steam.

The issue is AI just makes it easier to do in faster to do so there’s more of them. It’s not a new problem though.

They have been trying to solve this problem for a decade. This isn’t a problem that’s likely actually solvable.

Cuz no matter what you do, you’re going to hurt legitimate devs far more than the cash. Grab guys the slop cloners.

You’re also going to knock out the slowly growing group of people who are using AI to make their little dream games but actually do it well.

There’s not a lot of them but they’re popping up on places like itch or just on GitHub pages.

I don’t envy valve the fact they’re even attempting to tackle while expected because it is their store is also genuinely commendable. Most companies would look at this go f*** that it ain’t worth the effort and then f*** off.

Honestly, the few times I’ve come across a good slop game. Day have been some of the best little indie games I’ve ever played.

AI has giving people who can design a good game. The ability to now also make those games by themselves.

Not everyone can be toby fox and do everything sadly.

The problem is those few games are made by people who made those games for themselves because they wanted to play them. Then they decided to share them but first and foremost they were still for the author.

Hey guys, just made it way too easy to put out s*** that you don’t want to play yourself in an attempt to make a quick buck. To share that’s always been a problem but it’s just gotten worse.

I really wouldn’t say few and far between is an accurate way to describe the problem before AI.

It kind of went from an uncontrollable flood to a literal tsunami. We went from like a 7 out of 10 on the. This is a problem scale to an 11 out of 10. It got worse. There is no f****** doubt about that. It got much much worse.

It was already an incredibly huge problem.

60/40 honestly.

Is everything that isn’t their own games? They do fantastically being fair about.

They’re more than happy to casino it up with their own s*** though.

No one’s perfect

Slopping asset flip and cash grab games have always been a problem. That’s nothing new. AI just made it easier to do.

This is a problem that’s existed for 20 years basically. AI has only just made it more of a problem. It’s not new.

If we could have solved this problem we already would have.

AI disclosure at a minimum I agree with wholeheartedly.

But basically every other solution everyone is throwing around is more or less just f****** stupid. Someone who legitimately makes a game for themselves. That is actually fun because they made it for the purpose of them themselves playing it. Even if they used nothing but AI is still probably going to be a better game than some half-assed cash grab or asset flip made by a legitimate human with no AI.

The problem isn’t AI. The problem is s***** people making s***** games with no integrity or intent to play their own creation.

If you want a fun game, you have to make a game you would play. How you enforce that is f****** beyond me though.

Yeah out of 100 vibe coded games. Iv come across like 3 that were legitimately good.

Those three where actually very very good games But they were tiny little things clearly made because the guy who made them WANTED to play them.

While the rest where just asset flips or clearly just attempting to make a cheap quick buck.

It’s just a great example of the problem. AI by itself doesn’t cause an issue. We already had this problem. Asset flips low-called a crash grabs have always been a thing.

Problem AI caused is now it’s a thousand times easier for literally every lazy f*** to do this.

Banning AI games should not happen. It is possible to make something legitimately fun and worthwhile playing with nothing but AI.

We need to solve the fact that every d****** can just s*** onto the steam store with no effort and leave something half built and abandoned.

Disclosure at a minimum. Better filtering harsher vote waiting.

My problem is every other idea I can think of unfairly smacks legitimate AI games or legitimate games that use AI as an actual proper tool as opposed to just a lazy way to asset flip.

Is not a lot of good ways to do this. To be fair, if there were we wouldn’t have asset flips in low quality cash crabs either.

Well I have some good news…! Water can in fact flow upstream. Look up tidal bores they are really fucking cool!

Can they… not?

Honestly thats the healthiest outlook. We should all be skeptical any time we use a service. Diversification and not throwing all in is a soild middle ground.

Honestly my read on this tho at this point having looked and thought on it more, is that it could be anything from proton struggling to find talent and accepting the fact AI is just a fact of reality. And checking who in the company is willing to work with ai and who isn’t before they make a big company wide shift in how they operate is frankly a good idea.

It reads as a possible lay off or a smart move from up high to get a feel for the workers opinions. Or any combo inbetween. Its hard to say with what we have here.

So i am not holding my breath its just the overlords from up high being smart. But its not impossible.

Don’t ai tend to lean to progressive anyways? They go stupid when you try to force them to be conservative.

Yeah the problem is any AI that is built ethically and respects privacy even 48% right is being kind. While the unethical ones are starting to push 90%+ accuracy in god damn well near every metric the normal person cares about.

But they abuse the Internet and destroy everything to get there.

It’s fucked

For you know 5 or so years then also go to shit.

Like why can’t a company just decide to stay the good guys for like any real amount of time ;-;

Give it 5 years and that shiny will ware off. That’s the damn problem. Nothing last forever and everything goes to shit eventually.

At some point you just gotta settle for the devil you know.

If you still have the energy to most posteo is fantastic from what I have heard tho.

I’m just tired man, I just want to stop having to think about politics in my fucking email.

Clearly you just aren’t high enough to have looped back around into highly functional

The problem is at this rate if we keep dropping things because companies are stupid.

We will have literally nothing left.

I don’t know about you but building the infrastructure and services proton has is not something i can do. Like some of it I can self host and I do. But like that’s only a fraction it cost more to do it myself then I would spend in years letting them handle it. And it would be less reliable and strain my already tight food budget.

'm just running out of companies that aren’t actively kicking puppies.

So either I become a luddite and stop using technology or I’m stuck accepting reality isn’t a magical wonderland where fucked up assholes are in charge of basically everything.

Horse cock from the hit game how to clean your dragon!

It’s peak humanity. It really is a fantastic show of the double standards and mental gymnastics that define what it is to be human.

Read and nuance is for the bird! We do snap reactions and hot takes around here!

Lemmy is such a fun duality of positive vibes and absolutely brain dead hate band wagons.

Better than reddit that’s only hate bandwagons tho.

The ai bubble bursting and hardware prices crashing would make local gen even more affordable.

Which means cheap generic ass stock filler imgs would be easy and accessible for everyone.

Fuck ai, but fuck getty more. Anything that undermines them is good.

Honestly… I rather have ai stock imgs then getty. The entire point of stock it’s is they are place holder or filler imgs.

They are purely functional in nature. Ai is fine for that more or less.