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Self preservation would be one motivation. .

The 2019 RAND report gameplan for this conflict makes it clear that, if the worst case scenario happens and Russia gets stronger over the course of the conflict rather than being depleted as intended, an offramp should be found immediately to minimize Russian gains. Ukraine is losing the war, and supplies are now limited to a dripfeed. Their suzerain is stating pretty clearly that they expect compliance. – Logically, in line with US think-tanks, the next step is to assassinate Zelensky and find someone more conciliatory.

Lemmy.world? The instance of misanthropic baby killing terrorists?

Fuck dronies.

Western liberals who think they are entirely objective and free of bias really struggle to get to grips with how much of their world view is just patronizing racist chauvinism.

Also I’m not even sure why liberals are permitted on lemmy. Send them and their disgusting violent ideology back to corporate media.

Imagine the outcry if this had happened in a real democracy, like Venezuela.

These weapons are the kind of thing the Ukrainians have developed to “retaliate” against random civilian housing blocks whenever Russia craters a command center. They’re basically modern V1/V2 rockets “This will terrify the russian population into submission!!”

You’re likely getting that response because Hexbear has developed it’s own culture of having earnest conversations that are intended to enrich and inform the users taking part in the discussion.

The derisive, dismissive responses are a reaction to someone breaking that etiquette by grandstanding, accusing people of logical fallacies, or resorting to insults: these are things that indicate that the person isn’t sincerely interested in trying to understand the person they are speaking to.

That’s the second person from hexbear that you didn’t realise at the time of posting. You’re going to have to get better at spotting us if we’re so awful.

telegraph getting upset about free markets?

I’m sure Russia had to hold, (at gunpoint?) the people of Donbas who had been shelled for 8 years by the Ukrainian government to get them to vote to leave Ukraine. Or the people of Crimea who had already voted to leave Ukraine before the Russian Federation even existed.

Ah yes, “free” as opposed to »free« Ukrainian elections.

In free, western Ukrainian elections, the ruling party simply bans opposition parties that they don’t approve of and seizes their assets.

You acknowledge that people have a right to defend themselves, and be supplied weapons to that effect. Your usage of “propped up” also suggests you acknowledge that there were legitimate separatist sentiments in Ukraine in 2014. Why do your principles of armed self determination break down when applied to Donbas? Seems that “tankie” is your word for “someone that believes in self determination”.

When did that happen tankie?

Minsk 2, proposed by Russia, outlines that control of the border should be restored to Ukraine, and that Donbas should be reintegrated democratically back into Ukraine with a level of federalization to protect it from future lapses in Ukrainian democracy.

Interesting how dronies keep saying that the east is forcing Donbas to keep fighting. But when Russia suggests they give some land to Ukraine to stop the war, Donbas gets offended and want to keep fighting.

You’re having a hard time because you’re realizing you’re closer to being a bot than we are.

currently trying to genocide

This piqued my interest, since a lot of the Uyghur genocide narrative collapsed years ago to the point that even the journalists that were reporting it began walking it back.

Taking a look at who is currently reporting on “Uyghur genocide” in 2023, and it’s all organisations like Voice of America, Radio Free Asia, United States Institute of Peace - basically (literal) US government propaganda agencies reporting on the US congress proceedings.