I mean if you want to be all sensible about it, sure.

It’s just a tool. The real scam is that the 1% pay such a low share of their actual income (including capital gains)

Tbh it kind of is as long as you’re fluent in assembly

Literally the comment I was going to write

Lemmy would not have existed without Reddit. Lemmy is a clone of reddit!

Plus reddit put all the work intro attracting users and communities in the first place, before driving them to places like lemmy.

I meant the platform more than the company.

It’s my favorite format for social media… that’s why I’m on lemmy.

I learned that “capitalism” is an economic system, not a system of government.

So you could have a socialist state that funds essentials like healthcare and transportation through taxes with a market (capitalist) economy.

I may be wrong, but I don’t see socialism and capitalism as hard opposites.

I see capitalism and communism are like hard opposites with socialism somewhere in between.

Yeah but capitalism also made reddit great, before making it terrible.

There’s a balance in there somewhere. What we got ain’t it tho.

Income tax

Programmers are not immune to fads or the network effect

There’s a chip shortage. Most people just use web based apps, so stay on their phones / cheap laptops Enthusiasts usually just build their own machines. Everything is more expensive. The list goes on

They’re a lot more than markov generators, but yeah. I don’t really think, in the long run, we’re going to see too many jobs displaced by AI.

Im not convinced that our statistics based training methods will lead to true iRobot style AGI.

And any company (except maybe visual novel shops) that fires people in favor of AI is going to regret it within 2 years.

I’ve noticed that the lemmy crowd seems more accepting of AI stuff than the Reddit crowd was

But that’s the situation currently anyway.

They are still the largest fediverse platform.

Like to your points

1. Sure, but now those people just won’t join the fediverse
2. How do you figure? What persona of user is there that would have joined an independent instance but join threads instead? The fediverse itself has no draw, besides being more independent.
3. And that’s different than now, how? Every fediverse platform is essentially implementing features that large social media giants have had for years.
4. This is true, but what’s the problem with that? Most fediverse users were accustomed to large amounts of content from other platforms and left (or at least also use the fediverse) the only downside would be giving meta more data, but they can just scrape that same data from the fediverse anyway. All they need to do is quietly set up a private instance and set a bot account on that instance to follow everything from every instance it could find.

Someone in another thread mentioned that they would likely display ads near content from independent instances, and that’s a good point imo. They’d be directly making a profit off of private instances, which would be fucked up.

I hear a lot of talk of EEE too, which is a legitimate worry also. there must be a way to accept the first 2 Es without the extinguish. I’m hoping the admin community is thinking about that more than “meta evil” when defederating threads.

If you’re in the know, sure, but if the fediverse interacts with threads we could expose literally billions of people to the larger fediverse.

Maybe while the fediverse is still getting it’s legs defederating is the move, but I mean literally billions of people being made aware of the fediverse would be amazing.

That infosec post up some good points.

The issue I see is that defederating them doesn’t resolve any of the issues they pointed out. Meta is still able to see most information in the fediverse, their built in user base is so large, that it makes the fediverse look totally empty by comparison. I don’t think we realistically prevent much disinformation by walking them off (though we do prevent some)

I just think it’s such a missed opportunity to grow the fediverse. Like now we’re 100% certain that threads users won’t take part in the larger lemmy communities at all.

EEE is a real thing, but it’s a balance act. You can be embraced and extended without being extinguished as long as you do it carefully (I mean look at some of the open source projects of the past decade. Typescript, bucklescript, react, electron and even companies like GitHub, which M$ owns, but hasn’t been mucking up too badly)

Maybe defederating for now is the right move, so the fediverse has time to grow into its own, but I don’t think “meta evil” is a good enough reason to just block out potentially billions of potential fediverse participants is all.

I don’t think it does. ActivityPub is just a specification. The spec itself is under a very permissive license https://www.w3.org/copyright/software-license-2015/

I was talking about Linux specifically because it’s under the GPL license. Threads isn’t open source at all afaik, so it doesn’t really apply

Honestly it doesn’t even matter. If meta really cared about fediverse data, they’d set up their own unnamed server, make a bot account that just follows and subscribes to as much as it can. Nobody would know to block it, it’d just look like another user.

Well yeah he could, but he can’t retroactively apply that license change, so the Linux foundation would just keep rolling on with their own fork.